tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7485930897542235908.post4264374504573333154..comments2023-09-26T11:00:35.262+02:00Comments on Let me wear a Suit. Please! necromonger @ INSEAD MBA Blog: INSEAD vs. HKUST MBA (is INSEAD Singapore an Asian School?)Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7485930897542235908.post-80903448038834075862009-09-03T20:13:03.311+02:002009-09-03T20:13:03.311+02:00People used to laugh when Insead was coupled with ...People used to laugh when Insead was coupled with HKUST. Well guess what 2 years have passed and they no longer do. <br /><br />These are the top 2 schools in Asia and thats where the top applicants will be going, especially after people have come to realize that CEIBS is not an option for white non-Mandarin speakers.<br /><br />The biggest differential used to be the class profile, Insead used to admit people with higher scores and better work experience, but the gap is almost non existent these days. <br /><br />Give it another 3 years, and this thread will really get opinionated.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04597317452059784764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7485930897542235908.post-24825230319126778732009-09-03T20:04:54.473+02:002009-09-03T20:04:54.473+02:00This was a non-contest 2 years ago.
It is a legiti...This was a non-contest 2 years ago.<br />It is a legitimate contest this year. <br /><br />I will not debate the fact of Insead in Europe, but in Asia these are the 2 schools which the top applicants will be looking at. <br /><br />Average student profile at HKUST used to be way sub par to Insead, but the gap has been closed radically this year. <br /><br />I used to laugh when i heard HKUST and was like who/what... its getting a lot more respect and quality applications these days.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04597317452059784764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7485930897542235908.post-90157009479087571842008-06-10T17:34:00.000+02:002008-06-10T17:34:00.000+02:00good postgood postAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7485930897542235908.post-89580824604063312122008-06-04T22:07:00.000+02:002008-06-04T22:07:00.000+02:00Anon,Expect it in the next couple of weeks.Anon,<BR/><BR/>Expect it in the next couple of weeks..https://www.blogger.com/profile/14561766650408018721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7485930897542235908.post-41279863996449307422008-06-04T05:34:00.000+02:002008-06-04T05:34:00.000+02:00hey.. do you know when the official recruitment st...hey.. do you know when the official recruitment stats are gonna be released? <BR/><BR/>cheersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7485930897542235908.post-49951652427200063912008-06-01T17:06:00.000+02:002008-06-01T17:06:00.000+02:00jcohen,Thanks for the post and putting an alternat...jcohen,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the post and putting an alternate approach to looking at the schools. I think we can agree to disagree - but I have no credibility for EIU rankings. To me, their overall ranking and sub-rankings mean little. <BR/><BR/>But the point is I have stayed away in my post from making any commentary on ranking, and I used pure data from the schools own websites to show the comparison - nothing more or nothing less. Those statistics are what most students are interested in - because at the end of the day, that is what they will confront.<BR/><BR/>Again, let me re-iterate, the post was only a response to threads I was asked to see. I've made no conclusions, and it's left to the readers - ultimately you choose the school that best serves what you want. And that "want" can be very different for different people..https://www.blogger.com/profile/14561766650408018721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7485930897542235908.post-77389382601922551632008-05-30T08:14:00.000+02:002008-05-30T08:14:00.000+02:00How come your entire comparison is entirely $$ bas...How come your entire comparison is entirely $$ based?<BR/><BR/>This is coming from Economist. While I agree the overall ranking is not accurate, these sub segments present reality.<BR/><BR/>11:6 for HKUST Final score. Every advantage Insead might have is only tied to better students coming in and higher salaries since they are all ibankers and consultants. However post graduation salary increase is very low for Insead. <BR/><BR/>Open new career opportunities:<BR/><BR/>HKUST 10, Insead 35<BR/><BR/>Diversity of recruiters:<BR/><BR/>HKUST and Insead both 4<BR/><BR/>Number of jobs 3 months post graduation:<BR/><BR/>HKUST 21, Insead 66<BR/><BR/>Jobs found through career services:<BR/><BR/>HKUST 3, Insead 14<BR/><BR/>Student assesment:<BR/><BR/>HKUST 35, Insead 60<BR/><BR/>Personal development and education:<BR/><BR/>HKUST 3, Insead 8<BR/><BR/>Faculty quality:<BR/><BR/>HKUST 6, Insead 62<BR/><BR/>Student quality:<BR/><BR/>Insead 19, HKUST 86<BR/><BR/>Student diversity:<BR/><BR/>HKUST 2, Insead 31<BR/><BR/>Education experience:<BR/><BR/>HKUST 1, Insead 5<BR/><BR/>Increase in salary:<BR/><BR/>Insead 26, HKUST 76<BR/><BR/>Post graduation salary increase:<BR/><BR/>HKUST 13, Insead 91<BR/><BR/>Final salary:<BR/><BR/>Insead 13, HKUST 100<BR/><BR/>Potential to network:<BR/><BR/>Insead 21, HKUST 60<BR/><BR/>Breadth of alumni network:<BR/><BR/>HKUST 67, Insead 96<BR/><BR/>Internationalization of almuni:<BR/><BR/>Insead 16, HKUST 42<BR/><BR/>Alumni effectiveness:<BR/><BR/>Insead 9, HKUST 42<BR/><BR/>JCohen<BR/><BR/>with this i want to bury the hatchet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7485930897542235908.post-83355689719507843902008-05-23T00:52:00.000+02:002008-05-23T00:52:00.000+02:00Dear HKUST '08,Thank you for the gentle response.(...Dear HKUST '08,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for the gentle response.(are you the same who sent me a mail as well?) My post was not an intention to belittle or create unnecessary rancor - but simply to respond to what I read in as much a factual manner. <BR/><BR/>I don't want to get into the "which is better" debate - am sure HKUST offers a lot of value to people who seek specific experiences. I could debate some of your assertions, but ultimately the best way each school is served is by describing what the school offers as opposed to what some "other school does not offer." But it was great to see you put this post and that helps give a different perspective to those who are trying to make their b-school choices.<BR/><BR/>(PS - if you want to put in any specific figures from verifiable sources that will help paint a more useful picture, please go ahead).https://www.blogger.com/profile/14561766650408018721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7485930897542235908.post-84690435276929567692008-05-21T19:15:00.000+02:002008-05-21T19:15:00.000+02:00Excellent article!Allow me to begin with saying th...Excellent article!<BR/><BR/>Allow me to begin with saying that no one at HKUST questions INSEAD's<BR/>reputation.<BR/><BR/>I am sure the figures you have posted are from HKUST website or some other reliable source. The diversity numbers do not seem right, 50% from China + HK, is certainly not the case for class of 08/09.<BR/><BR/>The salary figures are what they are, but its not really fair to compare them at face value unless you have specific numbers for specific countries and not continents. <BR/><BR/>The student quality is without a doubt higher at INSEAD and thus entering salaries at INSEAD are much higher than at HKUST. <BR/><BR/>If you look at % increase from pre to post MBA salaries HKUST looks much better than INSEAD.<BR/><BR/>Bottom line, 2 totally different schools for different applicant pools. While I do believe HKUST is the best Asian B-School, I have no doubt INSEAD is the better of the two!<BR/><BR/><BR/>HKUST MBA '08Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7485930897542235908.post-13714216137529927552008-05-19T06:30:00.000+02:002008-05-19T06:30:00.000+02:00Hi necromonger.Good post, but I would like to add ...Hi necromonger.<BR/><BR/>Good post, but I would like to add a short clarification on "Network" (which don't change a picture, though; just to be precise):<BR/><BR/>INSEAD: 32,200 members worldwide, 17,000 of which are MBA alumni (from INSEAD web-site). It means that the rest are EMBAs + executive education. Now be fare with HKUST: from my point of view you should compare 17,000 INSEAD MBAs to 3,000 HKUST MBAs, otherwise you should add alumni from Kellog http://www.bm.ust.hk/emba/ =)<BR/><BR/>BR,<BR/>YAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7485930897542235908.post-39983461172543941332008-05-18T21:41:00.000+02:002008-05-18T21:41:00.000+02:00Pradeep,As I mentioned in my "methodology" section...Pradeep,<BR/><BR/>As I mentioned in my "methodology" section, I stayed away from GMAT /# of industries etc because I cannot get accurate statistics from HKUST's pages/career report. It would not be fair for me to speculate without hard facts..https://www.blogger.com/profile/14561766650408018721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7485930897542235908.post-48412837959908292522008-05-18T20:29:00.000+02:002008-05-18T20:29:00.000+02:00Good one! I personally believe INSEAD Vs HKUST is ...Good one! I personally believe INSEAD Vs HKUST is a no-contest with INSEAD being light years ahead. <BR/>Another set of numbers you could have concetrated on is the admission stats. Avg GMAT, avg workex, # of ppl with International experience, # of people with entrepreneurial exp, number of industries, etc.Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07336627028214678374noreply@blogger.com